Gary says (10:19 PM):
its a different world
SFASC says (10:22 PM):
ive made it one of my goals to understand how cars work. i will no longer go around ignorant =D
it’ll probably take some time but it’ll be worth it.. then maybe one day i can mod cars and stuff
Gary says (10:22 PM):
mods are good
but upkeeping the mods
is the hard part
a lot more maintenance
Gary says (10:23 PM):
which = more $
if you don’t $
then you will $ more eventually replacing parts
SFASC says (10:23 PM):
yeah. its quite a cycle of $ tornadoing
probably something to do when i have a job haha
SFASC says (10:24 PM):
my friend was just telling me that it cost $4000 to use a blackberry over 3 yrs
that’s absolutely insane!
Gary says (10:24 PM):
well
think about it
chris has a iphone
w/ data plan
= $100 a month
before taxes and shiz
1200 a year
Gary says (10:25 PM):
3600+ for 3 years
original plan was 50 bux a month
thats mandatory
data plan isnt mandatory but costs $50 for like 4-6 gigs of data a month
Gary says (10:26 PM):
a lot of smartphones require dataplans
or else u can’t buy the phone
with contract
at the rate we’re going
Gary says (10:27 PM):
in the future cars are going to be the same
they’re gonna be on monthly contracts
and you technically won’t own what you drive lol
like the Ferrari FXX
technology is going to be too difficult to service
because of all the electrical technology
its literally going to be one giant smartphone on wheels
Gary says (10:28 PM):
that only the dealership can service
think about it too
its more profitable for the dealer when you lease/rent
than when you buy soemthing straight up
and do it all yourself
and if you mess it up its not under warrenty
Gary says (10:29 PM):
so to prevent the future car from not being messed up and voiding warrenties
the dealership will handle it all
at a monthly service charge
and cars will probably be receiving data constantly
weither for your gps or for data that gets sent back for research purposes on future vehicles
so they can be safer, more efficient, etc
SFASC says (10:30 PM):
two things scare me
that you’ve obviously thought this out quite a bit..and that it could possibly happen
it sounds absolutely terrifying
Gary says (10:33 PM):
its good for buisness
all governments will support it
our economies will soar
since a majority of people in the world only see vehicles as tools to get around
Gary says (10:34 PM):
and public transit will see changes
basically the idea of all preceeding generations was
Gary says (10:35 PM):
to create conviences to take unconvinient things off our mind
so we can focus on greater needs and concentrate on greater things
that require our attention
so far most of what we live and do has done that and we don’t even realize it
Gary says (10:36 PM):
so its only natural that the same thing will happen not to say it will be the same, but it will certainly be refined over time
Gary says (10:37 PM):
and therefore it will settle those that resent the change with incentives
and then eventually standardization
Thats also how Europe became a nation-state Empire
Gary says (10:38 PM):
back then and today with the new EU
the world is on its way back to Empires, but no longer in the same way
Gary says (10:39 PM):
the new Empires promote free trade, less taxes, more individuality and greater co-operation.
people in Europe can cross borders and move where they want without passports
Gary says (10:40 PM):
the US has a different idea about a North American Union
its more like secuirty based
since we need passports to cross now -_-
the American model won’t fair to well
but if the whole car thing does happen
Gary says (10:41 PM):
it’ll usually start in less privlidged nations
where not many people can own cars, or that its too difficult to support an expanding population and infrastructuer
like Asia and Europe
North America like always will probably be a few decades behind
globalization will reduce it by a bit
Gary says (10:42 PM):
so you don’t have to worry yet if you live here ;D
SFASC says (10:42 PM):
ahah. that makes sense. america is paranoid
SFASC says (10:43 PM):
i suppose leasing cars isn’t so bad.. i think
Gary says (10:43 PM):
lol
SFASC says (10:43 PM):
but perhaps the reason why they might still sell cars is to get greater amounts up front?
Gary says (10:44 PM):
well
the thing is manufacturers say its getting too expensive
to make cars
making it difficult for more people to afford them
its because theres so much testing required, electronic systems are like crazy
its like ps3
Gary says (10:45 PM):
they lose money for each they sell
they always have to cheapen the parts
and part prices eventually fall
but by that time they need a new system
for next gen
its just not going to be as profitable
not going to break even eventually
until the whole economic stuff collapses again
and restructuring begins
Gary says (10:46 PM):
and lesser and more innovative stuff gets killed off
so the company can support their flagship models
which sell well but may be boring
like the Corolla
its no fun
but it does its job as a tool
Gary says (10:47 PM):
its better to have a steady flow of income
rather than spikes as well
Gary says (10:48 PM):
although i’m not a economic or buisness major
so i dont know too much about the underground of how banks work
except for what ive seen or read in magazines sometimes
Gary says (10:49 PM):
like gov’t saves banks
banks suppose to spend money to save auto industry
but too afraid to invest in anything anymore
therefore gov’t invests in auto industry
costing gov’t twice as much as its suppose to
or something like that lol
SFASC says (10:49 PM):
haha
SFASC says (10:50 PM):
i myself don’t understand why there was so much money pumped into  GM then there is a bankrupt filing
Gary says (10:50 PM):
the thing is
even if GM is bleh
Gary says (10:51 PM):
we need it to survive
not just for jobs
but they have so much of their hand in every other auto company
that the entire industry will suffer
if they vanish
SFASC says (10:51 PM):
yeah. i understnad it networks out and what not
Gary says (10:52 PM):
well i think they tried to prevent it from actually being bankrupt
like how Canada tried to not enter a recession
and continued to do things as normal
then Harper goes
We in recessionz
and get a lot of bad publicity for not doing enough
Gary says (10:53 PM):
and the previous government under the liberals created a economic netting
to save us from entering the same state as US
that and all that foreign money being pumped into our economy
from Asia
especially China
Gary says (10:54 PM):
is why our housing market is still so strong
well I should sleepT

The name of the friend I was speaking to has been changed.  Otherwise, all other details remain unchanged and the same.  The thoughts and feelings written by both party may or may not reflect our personal feelings and therefore, should not be used against us, but only as a piece for conversation and discussion.

Gary says (10:27 PM): in the future cars are going to be the same they’re gonna be on monthly contracts and you technically won’t own what you drive lol like the Ferrari FXX technology is going to be too difficult to service because of all the electrical technology its literally going to be one giant smartphone on wheels Gary says (10:28 PM): that only the dealership can service think about it too its more profitable for the dealer when you lease/rent than when you buy soemthing straight up and do it all yourself and if you mess it up its not under warrenty Gary says (10:29 PM): so to prevent the future car from not being messed up and voiding warrenties the dealership will handle it all at a monthly service charge and cars will probably be receiving data constantly weither for your gps or for data that gets sent back for research purposes on future vehicles so they can be safer, more efficient, etc SFASC says (10:30 PM): two things scare me that you’ve obviously thought this out quite a bit..and that it could possibly happen it sounds absolutely terrifying


Gary says (10:19 PM):

its a different world

SFASC says (10:22 PM):

ive made it one of my goals to understand how cars work. i will no longer go around ignorant =D

it’ll probably take some time but it’ll be worth it.. then maybe one day i can mod cars and stuff

Gary says (10:22 PM):

mods are good

but upkeeping the mods

is the hard part

a lot more maintenance

Gary says (10:23 PM):

which = more $

if you don’t $

then you will $ more eventually replacing parts

SFASC says (10:23 PM):

yeah. its quite a cycle of $$ tornadoing

probably something to do when i have a job haha

SFASC says (10:24 PM):

my friend was just telling me that it cost $4000 to use a blackberry over 3 yrs

that’s absolutely insane!

Gary says (10:24 PM):

well

think about it

chris has a iphone

w/ data plan

= $100 a month

before taxes and shiz

1200 a year

Gary says (10:25 PM):

3600+ for 3 years

original plan was 50 bux a month

thats mandatory

data plan isnt mandatory but costs $50 for like 4-6 gigs of data a month

Gary says (10:26 PM):

a lot of smartphones require dataplans

or else u can’t buy the phone

with contract

at the rate we’re going

Gary says (10:27 PM):

in the future cars are going to be the same

they’re gonna be on monthly contracts

and you technically won’t own what you drive lol

like the Ferrari FXX

technology is going to be too difficult to service

because of all the electrical technology

its literally going to be one giant smartphone on wheels

Gary says (10:28 PM):

that only the dealership can service

think about it too

its more profitable for the dealer when you lease/rent

than when you buy soemthing straight up

and do it all yourself

and if you mess it up its not under warrenty

Gary says (10:29 PM):

so to prevent the future car from not being messed up and voiding warrenties

the dealership will handle it all

at a monthly service charge

and cars will probably be receiving data constantly

weither for your gps or for data that gets sent back for research purposes on future vehicles

so they can be safer, more efficient, etc

SFASC says (10:30 PM):

two things scare me

that you’ve obviously thought this out quite a bit..and that it could possibly happen

it sounds absolutely terrifying

Gary says (10:33 PM):

its good for buisness

all governments will support it

our economies will soar

since a majority of people in the world only see vehicles as tools to get around

Gary says (10:34 PM):

and public transit will see changes

basically the idea of all preceeding generations was

Gary says (10:35 PM):

to create conviences to take unconvinient things off our mind

so we can focus on greater needs and concentrate on greater things

that require our attention

so far most of what we live and do has done that and we don’t even realize it

Gary says (10:36 PM):

so its only natural that the same thing will happen not to say it will be the same, but it will certainly be refined over time

Gary says (10:37 PM):

and therefore it will settle those that resent the change with incentives

and then eventually standardization

Thats also how Europe became a nation-state Empire

Gary says (10:38 PM):

back then and today with the new EU

the world is on its way back to Empires, but no longer in the same way

Gary says (10:39 PM):

the new Empires promote free trade, less taxes, more individuality and greater co-operation.

people in Europe can cross borders and move where they want without passports

Gary says (10:40 PM):

the US has a different idea about a North American Union

its more like secuirty based

since we need passports to cross now -_-

the American model won’t fair to well

but if the whole car thing does happen

Gary says (10:41 PM):

it’ll usually start in less privlidged nations

where not many people can own cars, or that its too difficult to support an expanding population and infrastructuer

like Asia and Europe

North America like always will probably be a few decades behind

globalization will reduce it by a bit

Gary says (10:42 PM):

so you don’t have to worry yet if you live here ;D

SFASC says (10:42 PM):

ahah. that makes sense. america is paranoid

SFASC says (10:43 PM):

i suppose leasing cars isn’t so bad.. i think

Gary says (10:43 PM):

lol

SFASC says (10:43 PM):

but perhaps the reason why they might still sell cars is to get greater amounts up front?

Gary says (10:44 PM):

well

the thing is manufacturers say its getting too expensive

to make cars

making it difficult for more people to afford them

its because theres so much testing required, electronic systems are like crazy

its like ps3

Gary says (10:45 PM):

they lose money for each they sell

they always have to cheapen the parts

and part prices eventually fall

but by that time they need a new system

for next gen

its just not going to be as profitable

not going to break even eventually

until the whole economic stuff collapses again

and restructuring begins

Gary says (10:46 PM):

and lesser and more innovative stuff gets killed off

so the company can support their flagship models

which sell well but may be boring

like the Corolla

its no fun

but it does its job as a tool

Gary says (10:47 PM):

its better to have a steady flow of income

rather than spikes as well

Gary says (10:48 PM):

although i’m not a economic or buisness major

so i dont know too much about the underground of how banks work

except for what ive seen or read in magazines sometimes

Gary says (10:49 PM):

like gov’t saves banks

banks suppose to spend money to save auto industry

but too afraid to invest in anything anymore

therefore gov’t invests in auto industry

costing gov’t twice as much as its suppose to

or something like that lol

SFASC says (10:49 PM):

haha

SFASC says (10:50 PM):

i myself don’t understand why there was so much money pumped into  GM then there is a bankrupt filing

Gary says (10:50 PM):

the thing is

even if GM is bleh

Gary says (10:51 PM):

we need it to survive

not just for jobs

but they have so much of their hand in every other auto company

that the entire industry will suffer

if they vanish

SFASC says (10:51 PM):

yeah. i understnad it networks out and what not

Gary says (10:52 PM):

well i think they tried to prevent it from actually being bankrupt

like how Canada tried to not enter a recession

and continued to do things as normal

then Harper goes

We in recessionz

and get a lot of bad publicity for not doing enough

Gary says (10:53 PM):

and the previous government under the liberals created a economic netting

to save us from entering the same state as US

that and all that foreign money being pumped into our economy

from Asia

especially China

Gary says (10:54 PM):

is why our housing market is still so strong

well I should sleep


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